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Hi Jonathan,

I feel as if your essay was written for me as I am embarking (alone) in this new adventure with my children by choosing to homeschool them. Slow-living is our goal, allowing ourselves pleasure in being with nature, in nourishing and in return be nourished by it is what we are aiming for, so we can finally live and not just be here to survive. I can't even tell you what we are surviving for because there has been so much disconnection to our own prehistories (these are often stories our grand people would likely want to forget, because they too have been conditioned to yearn for this modernity that take us all away from the way we used to live, the way we were meant to live), so much disconnection to nature and the natural ways that I need constant reminding of it when I observe my children conversing with animals and trees.

Thank you for writing this.

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If you don't mind me saying, I think that's a brave and excellent thing to do Lisha, slow-living, home-schooling, engaging in nature. I so agree with the idea of no just surviving but flourishing. Nice. And thanks so much for reading and commenting.

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Thank you Jonathan, for your kind words ❤️

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Lisha, Thank you for this! I am in awe of you and celebrate what you are doing, wholeheartedly. I love your take on schooling your children, it is wise and needed and beautiful. Gorgeous!! Thank you for being this kind of human and for raising more humans who are the same. Love, love, love!! XO

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Oh Danielle! Thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement. I truly appreciate it. (I am alone in this decision, in this parenting world and I ugly cry when someone sees it like you do). Thank you ❤️

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Ditto

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Yyyyyyyeeeesssssssss!! Truly, you had me at your first line, "I grew up in faraway places and forgotten times, a child of the planet, barefoot on beaches, spellbound by oceans, bewitched by forests." Completely agree with everything you are saying here, and how beautifully you say it! Thank you. Don't stop! XO

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Thank you Danielle, I really appreciate your comments and kindness! In fact, not sure if you noticed, but I enjoyed one of your comments so much that I used it in a story...can't quite remember without looking it up but I think I quoted you in "Skimming Along The Fragile Surface"...

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Oh my word! I had no idea. I likely just thought it was a resonant hearts thing, at the time. You have humbled me. Thank you for that. A little humble pie always hits the spot. XO

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Sweetheart, you are never, EVER, alone. You are a woman. You have an extraordinary lineage in that, not to mention in all of Nature. You are held and loved and revered for what you are doing by the beautiful Souls who came before you and those around you, found in Nature. And if you need assurance in this world for what you are doing, then you just email or message me. Simple as that!! I will always be your cheerleader. Us moms and women should be sticking together and lifting each other up, crying together and holding each other in the growing of our beautiful Souls. XO

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Didn’t expect to recall hearing my dad read aloud from a book but I was and always will be annoyed with Plato’s alleged brilliant insights. Probably as a result of listening to men talk into the night after switching from wine with dinner to scotch in the living room.

But Camus. Till lately my man.

Now. I know I don’t know anything, only guess, realizing life and time were never linear except in history class. We live forever and forever will be seeking. All at the same time. Eons folding in - not following.

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I forgive those Ancient Greeks in some way. Such impenetrable societies, such extreme infantilizing attitudes to almost anyone who wasn't from the "tribe". They kinda annoy me too, platformed as they are by the narrative creators that are Western historians. But hey, what a glorious time too, pontificating on everything, being applauded for the most wonderful and the most idiotic assumptions and assertions. Somehow equally annoying and entertaining. They'd have loved the Scotch in the living room, those ancient Greeks :)

As for Camus, I sometimes think of him as a weather vane, but instead of the wind he spins with the social mood, and I think he picks up perfectly the mood that leads to Absurdism , the loss of meaning and the yearning for something else in a society that is increasingly dismantling everything that supports the human heart, the spirit and the warmth. Physicalism ans materialism do result in the mechanicaisation of life and the refusal to allow for meaning beyond the microscopic. Camus almost predicted the extremism of, say Dawkins and his elevation of the gene above those made up of them.

I guess I agree with you in that I really know that I don't know anything. Although I'd prefer to (because I'm a romantic optimist in some ways) embrace Keat's concept of Negative Capability and be "in uncertainties, Mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact & reason" because there's beauty and hope and love buried somewhere in there.

Thanks for a wonderful comment Patris. And thanks for being here. reading away and commenting with such intellect and warmth.

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The longer I live the more I think only the questions matter anymore, Jonathan, and the only beauty is in wondering.

(what you and kindred poets and writers here do)

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Questions are eternal

Answers are fleeting

Questions are honest

Answers are slippery

Questions are shared

Answers are pocketed

Open your door to questions

And glance at your watch

When answers come a calling

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When they do I must write them down in water.

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brilliant

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Jaded more like

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Gorgeous words and comment, Patris! And amen. XO

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So much to quote, and way too much to think on for only one comment.

( one if my my favorites)

“It danced maddeningly on the loose edges of his mind.”

I’m doing a bit more than “entertaining a thought”

How would you respond to ;

Ultimately, understanding and faced with the truth ,if that were a possibility;

“…a system that eventually perfects the alienation of humans from nature and each other …”

Would it in any way be able to reverse, where we hope we could be as a human being? Or will it only be something to ponder in the future of history , as it would be too late for change.

I will leave you with a couple of quotes from one of my favorite reads.

Harry Potter~ J.K. Rowland ( yes, I did just admit that) Ok, now stop being ‘judgy’ and just read on…

Towards the end of the final book, The Deathly Hallows, this conversation always intrigued me.

(Harry Potter speaking to the deceased wizard, Professor Dumbledore).

(Harry)

“Professor? Is this all real? Or is it just happening inside my head?”

( Dumbledore)

“Of course it's happening inside your head, Harry. Why should that mean that it's not real?”

Oh, just another addition to this conversation, or is it the same one?

To be continued , somewhere deep in the forest around a campfire. Family members drifting in and out , making S’mores, not listening, or fast asleep.

Dogs, softly snoring by our side.

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I always appreciate your comments Lor, and this is another zinger. I especially love the campfire, the dogs, the family.

I read many a Potter line to my kids. I remember having a few philosophical chats regarding some of the stuff Rowling skirted, like the Solipsistic quandary Dumbledor mentions (reading those to the kids is a beautiful memory, thanks for conjuring it up).

I don't think there is a reverse gear in life, the arrow of time is to rigid, but can we learn? Mmmmm, I'm reserving judgement ;)

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I was wondering if you would call it a ‘Solipsistic quandary’.

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Yep, there’s no Free Will either! Can’t help myself 😂

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Oh, but this is wonderful! I have a lot to say but no time to say it this week, which is frustrating, to say the least. Apologies. However, I shall send a proper message next week (busy family weekend), and please consider this brief note merely a placeholder for a better reply!

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There's plenty of time Alexander :) I'm so glad you enjoyed this piece and I'm so grateful for your encouragment and to encounter kindred spirits as yourself.

Please consider your placeholder firmly placed! (looking forward to it :)

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I think you hit the proverbial nail squarely on the head when you say how your fascination with prehistory might not be about the past, but about the present and our future. This is certainly how I feel, too. To look forwards, we can look back for guidance, but it doesn't mean we have to form bands and live in the woods (although I can see the attraction in this, of course!).

There are other ways to be, other ways we can live together, as Wengrow and Graeber so neatly encapsulate in the book you mention. Not that those who currently own the wealth and, therefore, believe they have the power, would like those ways of being. Call it what you will, late stage-, or early post-capitalism was always going to be a difficult, messy, time, one where the wishes of the few outweigh the needs of the many, one where questions begin to be shared in ways which cannot be silenced, and one where upheaval weaves all this together, against an ominous backdrop of natural systems unravelling around the planet.

Yet, there are those who are asking those questions, there are those who are listening to others. I think this piece is a superb example of that, to share a belief that there are other ways to be, that dominator cultures might actually have had their day and, perhaps, there is hope for a kinder future.

And, behind all this, flowing back in time until time and species become muddied, lies a wealth of different ways to be, different ideas about how we can be better, and what better actually means.

I really enjoyed this piece, thank you, lots of ideas close to my heart, after all. I especially loved the first part, and how it tallied with the whole.

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Thought provoking comment, Alexander. Love it.

I'm led to think about power again, and the battle for who has the right to describe the world, and this thing people call "human nature". The point you rightly make about "other ways to live" always brings this up for me. The past is often used as a kind of threat - believe in one version of "progress" or revert back to life lived "red in tooth and claw."

This idea that the enforced desire for a Tesla is the only thing between us and a Mad Max scenario is (obviously) based on this ridiculous notion that humans are essentially vicious and competitive and mindless (heartless). This is about power, right? because if we look at the social bonds and trading links and shared cultures of the past, or at the tendency for this social human animal to support (and love) one another for no more reason than empathy (and mirror neuronal behaviours etc.) then the ideological bases for demanding we need to be controlled and corralled is obvious.

The kind of cultural possibilities revealed in the past (especially in The Dawn Of Everything) give a lie to this view of "human nature" and offer completely new possibilities for the future. Which is so freeing to the imagination.

Thanks so much for reading and encouraging these thoughts, really enjoyable :)

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Thanks for sharing such a thoughtful piece! I loved how you connected prehistoric societies with our current social structures and made a compelling case for a more integrated and supportive world. It’s fascinating to think about how we can draw lessons from the past to reform our future. For example, I’ve been trying to implement these kinder social practices by organizing community cleanup events, but I wonder how you and others think we can further these practices? We need lost of examples!

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Such a wonderful thing, Rita, that you organise those community events. There is nothing like actual "doing" to settle the mind and the heart in these strange times. I think, when new imaginings are lacking, there is nothing like action and participation to open the imagination and realise other ways of interrelating are not only possible, but actually preferable.

Although, in my darker moments, I agree with Zizek, and think that practices that soften the blow and make all this madness easier to cope with might be merely extending the agony. Like when he argues that Social Democracy is inevitable a failure because it conserves "capitalism" by softening the blow, without ever rally confronting the essential nature of the beast.

I notice I'm often weaving the macro and micro through each other, in my thinking, so I guess I think that I also don't agree with Zizek, in as much as without actual "doing" there is no way to imagine a life outside of the current dominating value system. So I "do" and then I live in hope, without impatient expectation, that small steps end in great journeys.

I like the idea of the sphere of concern and the sphere of influence. Where the first is that which you dream about or worry about, and the second is that you can actually effect and change. Does the sphere of influence effect the sphere of concern (be the change you want)? That's the eternal power struggle question I suppose, but on a personal life level, you and your sphere of influence is all we've got.

Thanks so much for reading. It's a real pleasure to hear your thoughts.

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I'd say Zizek is probably right in his critique of Social Democracy, but the what is possible is different from what is best or ideal. I think we have to pass through something like SD to get somewhere better, maybe? But if you take Z's position, then you might also sub to some kind of accelerationist viewpoint, where we need to maximize the pain to manufacture the political will for real change. Z did say he supported Trump for this reason, because it would get us "there" quicker, and I remember nodding my head at that point because in theory it makes sense. Now, I'm not so sure. The max-out pain view makes strange bedfellows with very right wing, actual accelerationist views, and that bothers me a lot. ON a diff point, I do like this view of sphere of influence and s. of concern, it's a great way to visualize where you do have the power to act. And every little action strengthens your resolve and power, making bigger changes possible. Apoligies in advance for typos, am feeling hurried here on a brea from other work....

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Excellent point about the accelerationist viewpoint, which I've always found entirely unconvincing, in fact quite scary. It assumes so much we could never know. I have friends that said similar things - now it'll get so bad it'll get good - and yes, very insane bedfellows there (the extreme right, not my friends :). But can't one agree with Zizek but assume a different route to the dismantling of capitalism? I really don't know enough to answer, but I'd hope so.

Thanks so much for taking the time, and don't worry about the typos, I can't even type clearly with time!

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This is thought provoking writing Jonathan and I could very easily requote most of your essay, if not all of it! I was enchanted, then saddened… whom of this world that feels an affinity to nature and this planet, wouldn’t?

« and whenever we shine a light on “reality” we are ignoring the darkness either side of the beam »

We have blinkered vision… we can only hope for clarity before there is no longer need to hope…

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"I was enchanted, then saddened" - A perfect encapsulation of the journey.

There is so much to say but maybe, to strengthen hope, I'll say that if we can edge past this current historical period then we may well find a sounder footing in our relationship with nature. The current period is not all we can be :)

Thanks for reading, Susie. Good to see you here

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There are a few readers here whose posts I try not to miss, you are one of then Jonathan… I love your writing.

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🙏🏼

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I love this! Such a great read.

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Thanks Phillip. I'm really glad you've found your way to The Crow. You're so welcome to try a few other of my essays, hopefully you'll enjoy them too :)

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Just wanted to let you know, while I have only read the first paragraph next to 1. , this story looks to be incredible.

I’ll check back in with you later.

I have to go and find Ranger . He so enjoys your stories

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Twas a good read expressing what I believe too

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Lot's of kindred spirits here Tamsin. Thanks for reading and commenting :)

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Excellent Jonathan.

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Thanks Wes :)

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My personal belief is that Pandora’s Box was opened the very moment society accepted the delusion that man is separate from nature. Can humans wake up from this false sense of supremacy, or is the path of self-destruction an inevitable end to a species that deems ourselves special?

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For some reason I managed to turn off email notifications, so apologies for the late reply, Troy.

I feel like it's like a race between Enlightenment and Endarkenment (we can makeup words, right? ;) One is sponsored by Stupidity and the other by Love. Which is the greater force? Time will tell! I think right now Endarkenment is in the lead, but the race is not yet run.

Thanks for reading Troy, hope all's well.

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Endarkenment feels like the title to a book the world needs you to write...

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I’ve tried to answer you a few times and I don’t know what to say but thank you. I love that comment Troy. You are always so kind. Perfect timing after my day 🙏🏼

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